Elias
Elias
First Generation
1. Kurt ELIAS M.D. 
, son of 2. Herbert ELIAS M.D. & 3. Ilse Von ARNIM. Born on 3 Sep 1918 in Vienna. Kurt died in NY, NY, on 1 Mar 2010; he was 91. Occupation: Physician. Education: SW Memphis, NY Medical College, Mt Sinai.
, son of 2. Herbert ELIAS M.D. & 3. Ilse Von ARNIM. Born on 3 Sep 1918 in Vienna. Kurt died in NY, NY, on 1 Mar 2010; he was 91. Occupation: Physician. Education: SW Memphis, NY Medical College, Mt Sinai.Bar Mitzvah in Seitengasse Synagogue - the only one in Vienna to survive the war.
Left Vienna 6/38 for England.
On 21 Mar 1946 when Kurt was 27, he married Nina DUTCHER M.D..1 They were divorced in Jul 1974.
They had the following children:
i.
Peter Bernd Herbert M.D. (1947-)
ii.
Joan Emily (1951-)
iii.
Margaret Jean (1954-)
Second Generation
2. Herbert ELIAS M.D. , son of 4. Salomon ELIAS Dr. & 5. Helene KAUDERS. Born on 30 Apr 1885 in Vienna. Herbert died in New York City, on 29 Jul 1975; he was 90. Occupation: Physician, Professor Of Medicine. Religion: Jewish (Non-Practicing).
, son of 4. Salomon ELIAS Dr. & 5. Helene KAUDERS. Born on 30 Apr 1885 in Vienna. Herbert died in New York City, on 29 Jul 1975; he was 90. Occupation: Physician, Professor Of Medicine. Religion: Jewish (Non-Practicing).Early interests included music, history, fencing, horsemanship, Shakespeare. Very strong willed and had a poor relationship with his father; it was so bad that at age 13 on a summer vacation trip to Aussee, they went on separate trains. Academically superb in all areas, but never felt approved of by his father. His mother had died when he was young. Somewhat of a ladies man.
His first romance was with Lisa Schieb (who later married the lawyer who represented Mutti, and whose daughter his son Kurt dated). He then was involved with two women simultaneously and had a hard time deciding between them. Ada Hirsch was a pediatrician and Ilse Von Arnim a nurse he met at the Galetian Front.
After marrying Ilse he was very happy for several years, but the relationship deteriorated. She was very intense and tried to make him jealous. She attempted suicide when her chidlren were young, was in a coma for a time, and had chronic renal problems thereafter.
Left Vienna 11.9.1938 (after Kristallnacht) for Belgrade, where he stayed with the senior Rabbi.
http://ub.meduniwien.ac.at/blog/?p=612
On 5 Sep 1916 when Herbert was 31, he married Ilse Von ARNIM in Vienna. They were divorced in 1935.
in Vienna. They were divorced in 1935.
They had the following children:
1i.
Kurt M.D. (1918-2010)
ii.
Johannah (Hanni) Elisabeth Ph.D (1917-2011)
3. Ilse Von ARNIM , daughter of 6. Hans Friederich August Von ARNIM (Fredenwald) & 7. Ella (Elisabeth) Marie Henriette RIESE. Born on 18 Sep 1887 in Bonn am Rhein. Ilse died in Vienna in 1969; she was 81. Religion: Christian.
, daughter of 6. Hans Friederich August Von ARNIM (Fredenwald) & 7. Ella (Elisabeth) Marie Henriette RIESE. Born on 18 Sep 1887 in Bonn am Rhein. Ilse died in Vienna in 1969; she was 81. Religion: Christian.Family lore: described as unattractive, domineering, eccentric, romantic and mystic with interest in the occult.
Was a nurse and met Herbert on the Russian front. The marriage was an unhappy one. She attempted suicide in 1922 in the setting of consideration of divorce.
Visited US in 1947 but wouldn’t visit Kurt and Nina in North Carolina or stay for Peter’s birth. Instead stayed with Hannah in Detroit. Did not like Eric Husserl or Nina Dutcher. Hannah told Kurt not to let her stay with them - it wouild be bad for the marriage. She visited friends in NYC and made freinds with Carolene Dutcher (whom she falsely told that Kurt would not let her visit in North Carolina), considered but decided not to stay in the US.
She visited again in 1958, became close to Margaret.
Broke her hip.
Third Generation
4. Salomon ELIAS Dr., son of 8. Joachim ELIAS & 9. Ludwiga FRANKL. Born on 4 Oct 1841 in Waag-Neustadtl. Salomon died in Vienna on 22 Feb 1935; he was 93. Buried on 24 Feb 1935. Occupation: Attorney.2 Education: Gymnasium Pressburg, Bratislava, University Of Vienna Law School.2 Religion: Jewish.
Studied law at the University of Vienna. Practised law. A member of "Agudas Achim" and a court lawyer.2
Described by Kurt Elias as a “ruthless” lawyer in the Hapsburg court of Franz Josef. When he escaped the pogrom he went to Vienna and lived on the first floor of the Liechtensteinstrasse apartment where Kurt Elias was raised.
He and his wife were angry when grandon Kurt didn’t marry a Jew.
On 25 Mar 1873 when Salomon was 31, he married Helene KAUDERS2 in Vienna?
They had the following children:
i.
Julius (1874-1950)
ii.
Melitta (1878-1938)
2iii.
Herbert M.D. (1885-1975)
5. Helene KAUDERS2, daughter of 10. Anton KAUDERS Dr. & 11. Johanna (Hanni) WOLF. Born on 28 Oct 1854 in Eisenstadt, Austria. Helene died in Vienna, Austria, on 15 Jul 1921; she was 66.
Apparently depressed. Possibly ill chronically with syphilis. Went home to her family rather than staying with her husband.3
6. Hans Friederich August Von ARNIM (Fredenwald) , son of 12. Friederich Wilhelm Georg Ferdinand Von Arnim & 13. Adelheit Johanna Auguste Von Arnim (Milmersdorf). Born on 14 Sep 1859 in Gross-Fredenwalde. Christened on 16 Oct 1859 in Gross-Fredenwalde. Hans Friederich August died in Vienna on 25 May 1931; he was 71. Buried on 2 Jun 1931 in Währing. Occupation: Philosophy Professor (Berlin). Education: Doctorate At Griefswald 1882. Religion: Evangelic.
, son of 12. Friederich Wilhelm Georg Ferdinand Von Arnim & 13. Adelheit Johanna Auguste Von Arnim (Milmersdorf). Born on 14 Sep 1859 in Gross-Fredenwalde. Christened on 16 Oct 1859 in Gross-Fredenwalde. Hans Friederich August died in Vienna on 25 May 1931; he was 71. Buried on 2 Jun 1931 in Währing. Occupation: Philosophy Professor (Berlin). Education: Doctorate At Griefswald 1882. Religion: Evangelic.http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b290568;...size=100;seq=7;num=1 for his translation of Euripides in electronic form.
Hans von Arnim took his doctorate in Greifswald in 1882. His embarking on the collection of the fragments of the Stoics was influenced by W., then already in Göttingen (Hans Schwabl, focusing on Arnim's career in Vienna). ..An extreme case is Schwabl's paper of 90 pages on von Arnim which includes 40 pages of documents on von Arnim's academic career (e. g. his salary in Vienna).” From an online entry in the Bryn Mawr Classic Review accessed at: http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2001/2001-09-18.html
7. Ella (Elisabeth) Marie Henriette RIESE , daughter of 14. Carl Friedrich 'Julius' RIESE & 15. Johanna Henrietta 'Elisabeth' BECK. Born on 28 Mar 1859 in Berlin, Germany. Christened on 27 May 1859 in St. Matthaus' Berlin. Ella (Elisabeth) Marie Henriette died in Vienna on 2 Dec 1945; she was 86. Religion: Evangelic?
, daughter of 14. Carl Friedrich 'Julius' RIESE & 15. Johanna Henrietta 'Elisabeth' BECK. Born on 28 Mar 1859 in Berlin, Germany. Christened on 27 May 1859 in St. Matthaus' Berlin. Ella (Elisabeth) Marie Henriette died in Vienna on 2 Dec 1945; she was 86. Religion: Evangelic?Fourth Generation
8. Joachim ELIAS, son of 16. Hermann ELIAS. Born ca 1805 in Waag-Neustadl. Joachim died in Apr 1881; he was 76. Buried on 10 Apr 1881 in Vienna. Occupation: Wool merchant.
Wool merchant in Waag-Neustadl.2
Joachim married Ludwiga FRANKL.
10. Anton KAUDERS Dr., son of 20. Jakob KAUDERS & 21. Johanna SPIERER. Born in 1817 in Kormend, Hungary. Anton died in Vienna, Austria, on 9 Jan 1892; he was 75. Occupation: Physician.
Peter Elias has his signed copy of his 1843 thesis about lead encephalopathy.
Anton married Johanna (Hanni) WOLF.
11. Johanna (Hanni) WOLF, daughter of 22. Leopold (Löb) WOLF & 23. Rosa (Rebekka) SPITZER. Born in 1828 in Eisenstadt, Austria. Johanna (Hanni) died in Vienna, Austria, on 19 Jan 1892; she was 64.
12. Friederich Wilhelm Georg Ferdinand Von Arnim, son of 24. Ludwig Bernhard Von Arnim & 25. Luise Von Arnim (Luckow). Born on 16 Oct 1832 in Alt Temmen. Friederich Wilhelm Georg Ferdinand died in Gerswalde, Brandenburg, Germany, on 24 Aug 1876; he was 43. Religion: Evangelical.
On 10 Jan 1857 when Friederich Wilhelm Georg Ferdinand was 24, he married Adelheit Johanna Auguste Von Arnim (Milmersdorf) in Berlin, Germany.
They had the following children:
i.
Bernd Friederich Hermann Nicholaus5 (1858-)
6ii.
Hans Friederich August (1859-1931)
iii.
Hubert Friederich Abraham Christfried (1861-1937)
iv.
Eva Adele Louise Henriette (1863-1938)
13. Adelheit Johanna Auguste Von Arnim (Milmersdorf), daughter of 26. Heinrich Hermann Von Arnim (Milmersdorf) Gutsherr & 27. Eva Franziska Auguste von Schmalensee. Born on 18 Dec 1836 in Milmersdorf. Adelheit Johanna Auguste died in 1929; she was 92.
14. Carl Friedrich 'Julius' RIESE , son of 28. Georg Friederich RIESE Hofrat & 29. Anna Catherina HETTICH. Born on 23 Mar 1815 in Marienwerder. Christened on 24 Apr 1815 in Marienwerder. Carl Friedrich 'Julius' died in Berlin, Germany, on 8 Jul 1879; he was 64.6 Buried ? in St. Matthaus. Occupation: Physician. Religion: Evangelical.
, son of 28. Georg Friederich RIESE Hofrat & 29. Anna Catherina HETTICH. Born on 23 Mar 1815 in Marienwerder. Christened on 24 Apr 1815 in Marienwerder. Carl Friedrich 'Julius' died in Berlin, Germany, on 8 Jul 1879; he was 64.6 Buried ? in St. Matthaus. Occupation: Physician. Religion: Evangelical.On 15 Aug 1850 when Carl Friedrich 'Julius' was 35, he married Johanna Henrietta 'Elisabeth' BECK in Turkenwalde.
They had the following children:
i.
Fr?
ii.
Oz?
iii.
Kathe
iv.
Julie
v.
Ernst
vi.
Heinrich
7vii.
Ella (Elisabeth) Marie Henriette (1859-1945)
viii.
Gertrude Trudi
ix.
Hans
x.
Martin
xi.
Julius
15. Johanna Henrietta 'Elisabeth' BECK, daughter of 30. Ernst Ferdinand BECK & 31. Henriette Elise HOFMANN. Born on 17 Jan 1832 in Blankensee. Christened in Blankensee. Johanna Henrietta 'Elisabeth' died in Berlin, Germany, on 20 Mar 1885; she was 53.7 Religion: Evangelical.